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funnytiger
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 Posted - 03/09/2006 : 09:15:49
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On another forum the question was asked, what is the difference between Northern and Southern kung fu? Or rather what characteristics of both makes them different?
One of the things that I pointed out was our low rooted stances to which someone pointed out that ANY style that has low stances are rooted. I couldn't dispute that since I didn't know for sure. Thoughts?
I am sure this subject was covered MANY times before on the Southern Fist forum, but its not like I can look it up anymore so...
Also, this forum needed a little life, and I hope this does it.
-ft
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Ping Choi
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/09/2006 : 10:32:09
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Cant remember where I got this from, but this is the understanding I have.
Northern: refers to the geographic origin of the style but has also come to mean styles that include tumbling routines, very mobile stances, emphasises kicks.
Southern: refers to styles originating in South China, but also means styles that are thought to emphasize hand movements from stable low stances.
I may be wrong, I am new to this...
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southernkungfu
USA
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Posted - 03/09/2006 : 10:52:38
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I hear that a lot that northern systems don't focus on higher stances. But when I learned we did place empasis on low, strong stances.
I think and I certainly could be wrong that particular styles may use higher stances in both lower and southern. Wing Chun for example is Southern and I don't recall the emphasis on low stances.
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funnytiger
USA
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Posted - 03/09/2006 : 12:40:44
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I guess just for clarification, I meant the techniqes used in each style, not the regions.
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BillH
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 Posted - 03/09/2006 : 13:20:06
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*Thinking to myself*
"Please, Please dont say 'Southern doesnt use kicks because the cities are so crowded, and so they emphasize hands, blah, blah blah'...please NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!..." 
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TenTigers
USA
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Posted - 03/09/2006 : 17:27:06
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add to Bill's request-don't mention boats, or rice paddies either
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CLF Devil
USA
27 Posts |
Posted - 03/10/2006 : 04:45:35
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Eh. . . . . I think the "stance" thing gets confusing. Southern arts like Bak Mei, Lung Ying, Wing Chun, Wuzhu Quan, and Tong Long use high stances. Very high in fact.
CLF and Hung Ga train with lower stances, then use higher ones for fighting.
Northern styles like Baji and Pi Qua (i think) use low stances. So yeah. . . . Northern has more low stances than Southern. But they both train with low stances and nobody gets that low in a real fight.
so yeah.
overgeneralized post.
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funnytiger
USA
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 Posted - 03/10/2006 : 09:10:52
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quote:
Originally posted by CLF Devil
Eh. . . . . I think the "stance" thing gets confusing. Southern arts like Bak Mei, Lung Ying, Wing Chun, Wuzhu Quan, and Tong Long use high stances. Very high in fact.
CLF and Hung Ga train with lower stances, then use higher ones for fighting.
Northern styles like Baji and Pi Qua (i think) use low stances. So yeah. . . . Northern has more low stances than Southern. But they both train with low stances and nobody gets that low in a real fight.
so yeah.
overgeneralized post.
I am the user previously known as "Infrazael"
I don't think its fair to call this an "overgeneralized post" since I was asking the opinions of others rather than claiming to make factual statements.
I'm not sure and I don't claim to be an expert. Your input is definitely appreciated without condescending remarks on the side.
With all respect.
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Fut Sao
USA
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Posted - 03/11/2006 : 15:19:16
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| Kwong Sai Jook Lum gee Tong Long Pai use very low stances in advanced stages and so does Fut Sao Wing Chun. Low stances are incorperated with monkey footworks. |
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CLF Devil
USA
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Posted - 03/11/2006 : 17:56:21
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No no no. . .. MY post was overgeneralized. Not yours.
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funnytiger
USA
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Posted - 03/14/2006 : 10:49:33
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quote:
Originally posted by CLF Devil
No no no. . .. MY post was overgeneralized. Not yours.
I am the user previously known as "Infrazael"
Well I feel sheepish...
bah.
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dragonclaw
USA
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Posted - 03/14/2006 : 16:13:04
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Same for Lung Ying actually. We also use those low stances whenever necessary and the "shuffle steps" of Mor Kiu can be applied from high or low points. Tiger Leaping Over The Wall has numerous low postures and even performs jumping and jump kicks from that posture.
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method man
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03/15/2006 : 13:32:27
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| we know the arts of areas in china are different but making a general south-north devision is a little to general as differences may be dependant on the geography, ethnic diversity, religion, economics, and scoial structure. For example we know a lot of arts from the south have either been impacted on or brought by the hakka (Guest)people. we know that the jin people of western china where fundemental in the development of Xing yi, tan tui and other MA. We know places near the shaolin temple in Honan use shaolin typle techniques the same can be said of towns and villages near wu dong shan or the other sacred daoist mountains. emai shan had both doaists and buddhists living there and it has some techniques/styles that are buddhist and some that are daoist. However some things will remain shroaded in mystery I think on SFO I bought up the similarities between Wing Chun and Yin Fu Bagua Zang but in the history of both there is no conection, region wise they are far apart yet they have a lot in common. |
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3 Circle Method
Australia
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Posted - 03/19/2006 : 18:39:40
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There is no difference, fighting is fighting!
Each art has low and high stances and you should do kicks and punches to all gates.
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Choy Lay Fut Sifu
USA
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Posted - 03/19/2006 : 22:33:32
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I like southern styles much better personally. Chaat Sing Tong Long can be very nice though, if it's a good version. Only my opinion....don't have all the Bok Pai Yan get all defensive.
Best of luck in your training,
Sifu Michael Parrella
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TenTigers
USA
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Posted - 03/20/2006 : 01:10:33
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chut sing tong long is an enigma. It is the most southern Northern system I've seen. It looks like a southern system played by a northern practitioner.
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Southern Distinction?
