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dragonclaw



USA
735 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2006 :  10:07:55  Show Profile Send dragonclaw a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Alerton, who's your teacher and where in the USA do you train?

The noise of the lover is only up to
the time when he has not seen his Beloved.
Once he sees the Beloved, he becomes calm and quiet,
just as the rivers are boisterous before they join the ocean,
but when they do so, there are becalmed forever.
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TenTigers



USA
338 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2006 :  10:34:50  Show Profile Send TenTigers a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Alerten-I understand what youare saying about ying-yi kuen. The strikes are done with full commitment-and full follow through. if you don't commit, you arent using your intent, if you don't follow through, you choke off your intent as well. In Hung-Kuen, our use of the elements is different and not based on the cycles of creation and destruction-as far as I have been told-however I may be wrong, or someone may put out an article saying otherwise.
DC-SPM's sup bot dim kuen is all about dim mak.(amoung other things) The strikes are focused to specific points in specific angles,point of entry, and as you know, they are all phoenix-eye or fingertips strikes.

"I will NOT be of the generation that killed Kung-Fu!"
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3 Circle Method



Australia
1539 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2006 :  16:17:43  Show Profile  Visit 3 Circle Method's Homepage  Click to see 3 Circle Method's MSN Messenger address Send 3 Circle Method a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What if you dont use intent, TT?

Garry
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Alerten22



USA
104 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2006 :  16:20:40  Show Profile  Send Alerten22 a Yahoo! Message Send Alerten22 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Blah DragonClaw, i've said this numorous times. 619 South Trooper Rd. Audubon PA, 19403. The name of the place is Northern Shaolin Academy. Website link is:
You must be logged in to see this link.

The Kung Fu school is Owned by Master Norman Smith. My primary teacher is Sifu Jamal El(the best student of Master Norman Smith). Any time Sifu Jamal El hasn't taught i have been taught by Master Norman Smith... who isn't really fond of teaching external anymore because of his older age. Lately in our classes Sifu Eric has also taught along side Master Norman Smith and Sifu Jamal El. (personally i don't know why Sifu Billy Williams doesn't come to teach, and when he does teach it is more like once a year, the days i've been there.)

i'm sorry i may have mis lead the you (the reader). Master Norman Smith isn't fond of instructing. He likes to roam around correcting people, and maybe to instruct that person if they still arn't getting it.

TenTigers, Thanks for the clarification.

The Rigid person is a disciple of death; The soft, supple, and delicate are lovers of life. -Lao Tzu

Edited by - Alerten22 on 06/01/2006 16:26:39
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dragonclaw



USA
735 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2006 :  16:40:48  Show Profile Send dragonclaw a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh yeah that's right.....sorry bro I forgot! My good friend Sifu Bill Fong is on your website in the photo gallery. a pic titled "sigung and friends"

The noise of the lover is only up to
the time when he has not seen his Beloved.
Once he sees the Beloved, he becomes calm and quiet,
just as the rivers are boisterous before they join the ocean,
but when they do so, there are becalmed forever.

Edited by - dragonclaw on 06/01/2006 16:43:25
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shihfu



Australia
90 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2006 :  20:43:13  Show Profile  Visit shihfu's Homepage Send shihfu a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dragonclaw,

All the forms within White Crane (to be specific ~ Calling Crane) are Dim-Mak related. The foundation of each of the forms is in imparting Dim-Mak manipulations, seizing and strikes. Each form has a specific energy or series of energies (Jing) which it also teaches. Ihope this helps in some small way.

I'm a person, a seeker, not a "martial artist". "I do not know what I know, I feel it, unlike those who think they know yet know not".
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3 Circle Method



Australia
1539 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2006 :  22:57:02  Show Profile  Visit 3 Circle Method's Homepage  Click to see 3 Circle Method's MSN Messenger address Send 3 Circle Method a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is that what i also said or was it on the other thread? ;)

Ron,

Does your forms get more advance in dim mak as in theory or just alot more different ways to hit?

Can you tell me what forms use what energies in white crane or are there many energies in each form?

Garry
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Alerten22



USA
104 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2006 :  23:13:18  Show Profile  Send Alerten22 a Yahoo! Message Send Alerten22 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
DragonClaw, I believe most of the practicioners in that picture are Southern Martial Artist and i remember Si-Gong Norman Smith saying that that is a picture of members of a martial arts federation. I don't remember if this was one of the federations that he talked about every once in a while that was known in the 80s

The Rigid person is a disciple of death; The soft, supple, and delicate are lovers of life. -Lao Tzu
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dragonclaw



USA
735 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2006 :  23:29:44  Show Profile Send dragonclaw a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, my friend in the picture teaches Hung Gar.

The noise of the lover is only up to
the time when he has not seen his Beloved.
Once he sees the Beloved, he becomes calm and quiet,
just as the rivers are boisterous before they join the ocean,
but when they do so, there are becalmed forever.
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shihfu



Australia
90 Posts

Posted - 06/02/2006 :  20:53:11  Show Profile  Visit shihfu's Homepage Send shihfu a Private Message  Reply with Quote
3 Circle Method ~ Garry wrote:

quote:

Ron,

Does your forms get more advance in dim mak as in theory or just alot more different ways to hit?

Can you tell me what forms use what energies in white crane or are there many energies in each form?

Garry


Hi Garry,

To answer, yes as the forms get more advanced the Dim Mak theories and applications are also built upon or advance,

Each form has its own specific element. For example the HuaBaBu form is a Water Element form.

I'm a person, a seeker, not a "martial artist". "I do not know what I know, I feel it, unlike those who think they know yet know not".

Edited by - shihfu on 06/02/2006 20:53:50
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