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Firehawk


USA
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Posted - 12/24/2006 :  05:44:57  Show Profile Send Firehawk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Does anybody see these techniques in there Yip Man Wing Chun from the Yip Man Sup Baat San Sao Eighteen Separate Hands ?
Sup Baat San Sao

The Sup Baat San Sao (18 Separate Hands) are believed to be a rare and informal part of the Yip Man Wing Chun Kuen system taught by the late Yip Man to some of his early students. They are typically organized as follows (though thusfar only a small sampling has been possible):

Pien San Choi (Side Body Punch)
Pien San Tan Da (Side Body Disperse and Hit)
Pien San Jut Da (Side Body Choke and Hit)
Pien San Gaun Da (Side Body Cultivate and Hit)
Pien San Pak Da (Side Body Slap and Hit)
Tan Da Seung Chung Choi (Disperse and Hit with Double Punch)
Seung Ma Lien Wan Choi (Chasing Horse Linked Chain Punches)
Seung Ma Jing Gerk (Chasing Horse Straight Kick)
Dai Bong Saam Gwok Pak Da (Low Bong Triangle (Step) Slap and Hit)
Kwan Sao Po Pai Sao (Twining Hands Shield-Holding Hands)
Bong Sao Lop Sao Jong Jeung (Wing Arm Grasping Arm Thrusting Palm)
Gum Sao Saam Gwok Pak Da (Pinning Hand Triangle (Step) Slap and Hit)
Gwun Ma Jin Choi (Pole Horse Arrow Punch)
Seung Lop Sao Gerk (Double Grasp Hands Kick)
Gaun Sao Po Pai Sao (Cultivating Arm Shield-Holding Hands)
Gwai Ma Jin Choi (Kneeling Horse Arrow Punch)
Huen Kao Sao Saam Go Jing Jeung Dae Jeung (Circle and Detain Arm Three Straight Palms Low Palm)
Seung Ma Seung Chuen Sao Seung Chung (Chasing Horse Double Piercing Hand Double Thrust)

Robert Bayne

Kew-Do



USA
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Posted - 12/24/2006 :  08:26:21  Show Profile  Visit Kew-Do's Homepage Send Kew-Do a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, where did you get this info FireHawk? I am from the "Leung Sheung" lineage.

Kew-Do

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Firehawk



USA
67 Posts

Posted - 12/24/2006 :  23:02:14  Show Profile Send Firehawk a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi i got it from this website they have a bunch of Wing Chun San Sik on this website from diffferent Wing Chun lineages .
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Robert Bayne
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Yuen Kayjun



USA
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Posted - 12/30/2006 :  10:31:54  Show Profile Send Yuen Kayjun a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sounds to me like a version of San Sik similar to Gulao, Yuen Kay San and other WCK.

Not saying stolen or anything, ALL WCK could have this if they chose to.

But, your statement that it came from YM's early students, i'm assuming Mainland - makes alot of sense.

FWIK, YM taught his mainland students differently, with differences in forms and tech's. although i'm sure some of this filtered down to HK and stuff.

Also, it could be (for others) that this is just another step in understanding, evolution or practicality. because IMO, San Sik sequences are the best way to break down, practice, understand and fine tune a persons understanding and ability to perform various methods, while also engraining them into the student.

Personally, i like seeing this coming from YMWC. When i studied it, we were not taught this. I also like the various sequences and what they incorporate (in my mind) to teach the WCK.
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