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Tailik


USA
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Posted - 07/21/2006 :  08:44:08  Show Profile  Visit Tailik's Homepage Send Tailik a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Tailik



USA
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Posted - 07/21/2006 :  08:45:37  Show Profile  Visit Tailik's Homepage Send Tailik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Gru Bianca



Singapore
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Posted - 07/22/2006 :  09:14:03  Show Profile  Visit Gru Bianca's Homepage Send Gru Bianca a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dear Tilik,

Here below translation of page 38. Page 39 I'll try to do it tomorrow. Please bear with me the grammatical errors,.. English isn't my mother tongue as you may know already and translate Chinese isn't always a walk in the park . I used Mandarin Pin Yin for the Chinese terms, but I kept some Chinese character for your reference.

Be Well
Luca

Li Niu (李牛) is the big brother of Zhou‘s Kwoon.(周馆)

Specialized in the Ba Gua Gun of Zhou Family (周家八卦棍)

[Zhou’s Kwoon in Guangzhou] famous in Guangdong Province , Hong Kong and Macau, he held decisive influence in the martial arts scene of Guangdong Province 30 to 40 years ago,

The Founder of the Zhou Family Kung Fu, Zhou Longjing (周龙井) together with his brothers, Zhou Xie (周協), Zhou Biao (周标), Zhou Hai (周海) and Zhou Tian (周田) took care of the Kwoon, training a lot of talents that have contributed to the spread all over the world of the Zhou family Kung Fu up until this days.
The name was changed from Zhou Guan (周馆) to Zhou family’ s Fist(周家拳) in 1950 from Zhou Biao after his arrival in Hongkong.
Due to the different environment between Hongkong and the old days Guangzhou, the term Guan (馆) which had several different explanations and meanings could not allow it to be used anymore, so the old term ( 周 馆)was changed to Zhou Family’s Fist (周家拳); however the elderly of the Martial World (武林) would still refer to it between themselves as Zhou Guan (周馆)

The Zhou Family’s Fist has the head of Hung (洪)and the tail of Cai (蔡)hard and soft together.
This magazine in its 85th issue had an introduction titled “The Spring and Autumn of Zhou Guan” which however was missing of many details; now fortunately we can obtain detailed information from Sifu Li Niu and supplement all the omission of the previous article.
Zhou Long was from Xin Hui Sha Fu village, since young he followed his uncle Zhou Xiong (周雄) to study martial arts. His uncle studied Hung Gar. Later Zhou Long followed Cai Jiu Gong (蔡九公) in his study of the Cai Family Kung Fu. Zhou Long then combined the two Fists into what was called the head of Hung and the tail of Cai.
Zhou Long’s system adopted the steady position and sinking power of the Hung when throwing a fist; the quick footwork, floating horse and burying body of the Cai. He Hung system has long bridge hands, whereas the Cai system has short bridge hands.
The old Zhou Family’s Fist has many peculiarities, a all around arsenal of technique; there are long and short hands bridges, unpredictable changes, when attacking with a long bridge hand the short hand bridge will defend (guard). The footwork, when relaxed it’s steady as the mount Tai, when moving is quick as an escaping rabbit. Attack and defense , quick and slow all around techniques are contemplated.
In his youth Zhou Long went to South East Asia to earn a living; in that occasion because of a deadly fight with a local triad member, was forced to escape. He took refuge in a small mountain where he found a Buddhist temple named Ji Le Si ( 极樂寺); the Abbot of the temple was a Shaolin monk with deep knowledge of strike techniques.
Zhou Long could manage to be taken in……………………


…………..To be continued .
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mysteri



USA
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Posted - 07/23/2006 :  14:54:15  Show Profile  Visit mysteri's Homepage  Send mysteri an AOL message  Send mysteri a Yahoo! Message Send mysteri a Private Message  Reply with Quote
wow, this is great stuff here! very interesting facts which i think will open the floor for some great discussion later. thanx guys for all the work and input!

"Pride builds walls between people; Humility builds bridges."- Rick Warren
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Tailik



USA
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Posted - 07/24/2006 :  18:49:38  Show Profile  Visit Tailik's Homepage Send Tailik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Luca thanks for the translation, along with your time & patience.

TaiLik
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WallyWu



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Posted - 07/24/2006 :  23:16:20  Show Profile  Visit WallyWu's Homepage Send WallyWu a Private Message  Reply with Quote
what does 'guan' mean? and what could it mean such that they would have to change it?

"none can defense"
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Gru Bianca



Singapore
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Posted - 07/25/2006 :  01:47:49  Show Profile  Visit Gru Bianca's Homepage Send Gru Bianca a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dear Tailik,

don't mention it. My pleasure. I've almost completed also the second page, few lines left to be translated.

WallyWu,

Guan 馆means literally "house; hall;shop" but combined with other characters then assume other meanings. Can't really tell you why they felt the need to change the name, that's really an historical issue and I tried only to do a litteral translation. I guess those who are really connected with the origin of this style could reply you.

Regards,

Luca
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Gru Bianca



Singapore
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Posted - 07/25/2006 :  01:49:45  Show Profile  Visit Gru Bianca's Homepage Send Gru Bianca a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dear Tailik,

don't mention it. My pleasure. I've almost completed also the second page, few lines left to be translated.

WallyWu,

Guan 馆means literally "house; hall;shop" but combined with other characters then assume other meanings. Can't really tell you why they felt the need to change the name, that's really an historical issue and I tried only to do a litteral translation. I guess those who are really connected with the origin of this style could reply you.

Regards,

Luca
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Gru Bianca



Singapore
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Posted - 07/25/2006 :  10:06:37  Show Profile  Visit Gru Bianca's Homepage Send Gru Bianca a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Translation page 39


..........from the old sage and to strenuously practice martial arts. After mastering the old sage teachings, Zhou Long returned to Guangzhou.
At that time the military had ordered the official Li Fu Lin to promote a public audition in order to find a martial arts instructor. Zhou Long felt he had to try; his outstanding martial abilities won him the position.
After that Zhou Long established his Zhou Guan in Shi San Hang and start teaching the Zhou Family Fist and not long after many branches were established; Zhou Xie opened a branch in the seventh street of Tong De in Henan (河南) province. Zhou Biao established a branch in Jin Hua Lang, Zhou Hai established one in Chong Kou, Zhou Tian in Yan Tou. Many branches but one head quarter; a lot of proficient students were formed and in Guangzhou the Zhou Guan covered an influential role in the martial world.

Li Niu is the Zhou Guan old man.

Between all the Zhou Guan’s disciples, Li Niu can be considered the big brother (the elder).
In terms of position in the Family tree and record of service, Li Niu can be considered today the oldest and most qualified among the Zhou Family’s Fist group. He belongs to the senior forces.
At the time when Zhou Long established his school in Shi San Hang, Li Niu was among the first group of students; after Zhou Long past away, Li Niu continued by following Zhou Biao every where and trained very hard improving his skills up to a very high level; it is said that his technical achievements were obtained thru Zhou Biao’s praise and encouragement and being entrusted with heavy responsibilities.
Because of that, when the first branch school was established out of the city, Li Niu was given the responsibility to manage it together with all the branches schools in the four major country area around Guangzhou.
The first branch school was established in Xin Hui (新会)of Jiang Men city (江门) and Li Niu was appointed head instructor and Zhu Hua (朱华) vice-head instructor.
After a while from this branch school started the establishment of other branches up to an estimate of 30 branches all over towns and villages in an area comprising of four city.
Also Zhou Tian opened school branches in Xi Jiang (西江), Zhao Qing (肇慶), Wu Zhou (梧州) and Zhou Hai opened a school in the town of Hai Chen (海陈) of Shun De (顺德) city. Another one was opened in Jiu Jiang (九江) of Nanhai (南海)called Yinyoung Tang (英勇堂)[the hall of the brave] which was under the responsibility of Chen Guizai (陈桂仔)younger Kung Fu brother of Li Niu.
During the war Guangzhou was taken by the enemy and Li Niu escaped to Hong Kong. At the beginning he settled in Shen Shui She (深水涉)Da Nan road (大南街)where he took the instructor position at the Lu Feng Villa (爐峰别墅). Subsequently he moved to You Ma Di (油麻地)and taught at the association of cow and sheep farming.
After Hong Kong too felt under the enemy, Li Niu moved to Changzhou (长州)and taught at the Fei Xing athletic association (飞星体育会); after two years he also took a position as instructor at the Da Ao Min Quan athletic association (大澳权体育会).
After the war he went to (nowadays) Hong Kong New Territories Yuan Lang (元朗) in search of development.

The Lion picks the vegetable on the martial world as it climbs the pagoda. (very difficult to translate and in this case was not literally done. The meaning of it, by guess, should be something like Li Niu climbs the martial world as the lion picks up the vegetable hanging from a pagoda)

Li Niu Sifu learnt his skills and serviced in the Zhou Guan for approx 30 years. Brothers of the same generation whom had practiced gongfu together at the time left a few.

Sifu Li Niu was taught by his Zhou Family seniors to be unselfish and to help people thru his knowledge of Chinese medicine, to teach Kung Fu . He successfully taught many students over the years; some of them have accomplished mastery and opened a school of their own. Some of his students went to live abroad and contribute to enhance and glorify the Zhou Family Kung Fu overseas.

In the martial tradition of the Zhou Family, the Ba Gua Gun (八卦棍) and the Lion Dance are the most yarned skills by the practitioners. The Ba Gua Gun set is formed by the combination of three sets which are Da Ba Gua (大八卦) [big Ba Gua ], Zhong Ba Gua (中八卦) [middle Ba Gua], Xiao Ba Gua (小八卦) [small Ba Gua].
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WallyWu



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Posted - 07/25/2006 :  17:42:22  Show Profile  Visit WallyWu's Homepage Send WallyWu a Private Message  Reply with Quote
thanks

"none can defense"
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